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Picard S2, fake nerds 

If Alison Pill singing a Pat Benatar song in Picard is the lowest point of the series for you...

You might need to revaluate your priorities. :blobdisapproval:

Picard S2, fake nerds 

Also, "Roddenberry is turning in his grave" is a rich one.

Roddenberry would have been turned on, more like.

Picard S2, fake nerds 

(You know, because he was historically a horny bastard)

re: Picard S2, fake nerds 

@Jo

The final episode of TOS: Turnabout Intruder. Nothing else comes close.

I believe with the fervor of a thousand dying suns that CBS filmed and showed this episode specifically to discourage another letter-writing campaign.

re: Picard S2, fake nerds 

@mwlucas Every time I hear that title I imagine a crossover with Ace Attorney. :blobnervous:

re: Picard S2, fake nerds 

@Jo

That would have been better. :flan_worried:

Seriously, any time someone gripes about something being "the worst Trek," you have a two-word answer to end all debate.

If they defend TI, block and flee. :flan_yikes:

re: Picard S2, fake nerds 

@mwlucas @Jo I'll re watch it. I don't recall just how terrible it was.

re: Picard S2, fake nerds 

@thedaemon @mwlucas "Code of Honor" is extremely hated too.

re: Picard S2, fake nerds 

@Jo @mwlucas I've seen all of old Trek at least 2 times but forget some of the details. Code of Honor has some cringe but I don't hate it. :flan_dalf:​ Season 3 of TOS is pretty meh in general. People hate on "Sub Rosa" too!

re: Picard S2, fake nerds 

@thedaemon @Jo

Let me save you the pain, then. TI is basically "All women are weak and incapable. Only men are sturdy enough to withstand reality, let alone lead."

Oooh! Delete and re-draft to add: "If only women were happy with their place!" :flan_rage:

re: Picard S2, fake nerds 

@mwlucas @Jo thank you. that sounds rather gross.

re: Picard S2, fake nerds 

@mwlucas @thedaemon Roddenberry was an uncontrolled, raging misogynist even for his time and it was obvious throughout, but nowhere moreso than when he got it in his head to have someone write a damn gender roles/dysphoria episode.

re: Picard S2, fake nerds 

@pamela @mwlucas yeah he was. The times are still the times, no matter how progressive some of his ideas were, he was still a sexist 60s man.

re: Picard S2, fake nerds 

@pamela @thedaemon

True, but one detail:

He had been booted off the show for season 3. He had nothing to do with this episode. :flan_yikes:

I sincerely believe this was CBS' effort to keep the fans from mounting another letter campaign.

re: Picard S2, fake nerds 

@mwlucas @thedaemon it was his story. This was that funny post-Fontana era where they started throwing darts at the rejected plots board.

re: Picard S2, fake nerds 

@pamela @thedaemon ah, okay. Did not know that.

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@mwlucas @pamela @thedaemon

Any of you lot have any opinion about "Strange New Worlds" ?

re: Picard S2, fake nerds 

@Dianora @mwlucas @thedaemon it's got the magic

re: Picard S2, fake nerds 

@Dianora @pamela @thedaemon not yet, we're still on $CW

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@Dianora @mwlucas @pamela Yes. SNW is the new Trek show I was waiting for. It feels like Trek so far. The good parts. I love TOS, TNG, etc and the new show's haven't kept my attention fully. This one has my attention.

re: Picard S2, fake nerds 

@thedaemon @Jo

There are things in TOS that you kind of have to shrug and say "Well, it was the sixties, they didn't know any better." Like--if Sulu was openly gay, the show would not have been made. Okay.

Then there are things that they knew were fucked up then, and did them anyway.

"Code of Honor" was also a horror. I'd say it was a less horrid horror--mind you, if TI is a 10, CoH was a solid 9.8.

re: Picard S2, fake nerds 

@mwlucas @Jo

Which episode is TI? I cannot deduce it from context...

re: Picard S2, fake nerds 

@signaleleven @mwlucas Turnabout Intruder, the final episode of season 3 of TOS

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